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Ford says that the E-Transit will have a range of 126 miles for the for the low-roof cargo van. They haven't said what the range will be for the other roof heights.

It's powered by a 67.0-kWh battery

This seems a bit too low for me, especially if that isn't for a loaded van. Anyone else feel the same?

 

[vanman]

For most owners the 126-mile range should be enough. Here's what Ford had in mind with that number:

"Cannis said Ford's research shows commercially owned vehicles travel an average of 74 miles a day, so a van with a 126-mile range should get through the day without needing to recharge.

The van will feature both AC and DC fast-charging and come standard with a mobile charger that can plug into either a 120-volt or 240-volt outlet.

With a 115-plus-kilowatt DC fast charger, the low-roof cargo van variant can gain up to 30 miles of range in 10 minutes and 45 miles in 15 minutes, Ford said. Using a mobile charger plugged into a 240-volt outlet, the low-roof cargo van variant can charge about 10 miles per hour.

Ford also will sell an at-home charging station that can fully charge the van in eight hours"

 

[vanman]

It turns out Ford did some extensive research to make the range tailored to E-Transit owners.

"By leveraging more than 30 million miles of Ford Telematics™ data, we learned that the average daily range for commercial vans in the U.S. is 74 miles. Of course we also understand that there are days when those distances are higher, and recognize the need to adjust for factors such as cold weather. We consequently designed E-Transit with a targeted 126 miles of range (Cargo Van low-roof models). * Our goal is to be a one-stop shop for our commercial vehicle customers. And we'll have more announcements in the future on additional derivatives that offer more capability and range.

*Based on full charge. USA targeted range reflecting current capability based on analytical projection consistent with US EPA MCT drive cycle methodology (www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/pdfs/EPA test procedure for EVs-PHEVs-11-14-2017.pdf). Actual range varies with conditions such as external elements, driving behaviors, vehicle maintenance and lithium-ion battery age."

 

[vanman]

The Ford website and new promo material for the E-Transit also confirm the figures above.

"Did you know the average daily range for commercial vans in the U.S. is 74 miles? We consequently designed E-Transit with a targeted 126 miles of range (Cargo Van low‑roof models)."

And come time to charge we'll have access to 16,000 charging stations.

"Backed by 16,000+ public charging stations in North America, we offer an ecosystem of charging solutions to meet all your charging needs. Whether your fleet of vehicles is at the depot, on the road or at home, we have you covered."

 

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Important Facts About the New Ford E-Transit Electric Cargo Van

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vanman8 d ago

Ford shared these key facts about the E-Transit for anyone still considering getting one.

"With the latest technologies onboard, our 2022 all‑electric E‑Transit is designed to help you maximize connectivity and productivity, while enjoying a reduced cost of operation,* efficiency of operation and reduced CO2 emissions.

But there seem to be some misconceptions about electric vehicles that may be holding you back. It's important that we set the record straight."

Myth 1: 2022 E-Transit Doesn't Have a Long Enough Range

The Truth:
By leveraging more than 30 million miles of Ford Telematics™ data, we learned that the average daily range for commercial vans in the U.S. is 74 miles. Of course, we also understand there are days when those distances are higher. We consequently designed 2022 E-Transit with a targeted 126 miles of range (Cargo Van low-roof models).

The Truth:
With 2022 E-Transit you can start each day with a full charge by conveniently "fueling up" overnight at home or a place of business using the Level 2 AC (240V) Ford Connected Charging Station with streamlined consolidated billing.

Myth 2: Charging is a Slow Process
The Truth:
With 115kW fast charge capability, 2022 E-Transit can add an estimated 45 miles of range in 15 minutes3 (Cargo Van low-roof models) at DC fast chargers.
The Truth:
Finding a charger is quick with SYNC® 45, which allows drivers to search and navigate to the 63,000+ plugs available in the Blue Oval™ Charge Network.
The Truth:
E-Transit can conveniently charge overnight using the Ford Connected Charge Station or the Ford Mobile Charger plugged into a 240V outlet. See below for chart with more detailed charging information.
E-Transit Charging Times

Ford Connected Charge Station 240v/48A (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth Enabled)	Ford Mobile Charger4 240V/32A wall outlet	DC Fast Charging (115kW)
15 miles can be added per hour	10 miles can be added per hour	15-80% in approx. 34 minutes
0 - 100%: 8 hours	0 - 100%: 12 hours	-
Use: Mid-day refill or overnight charge	Use: Overnight charge	Use: Quick turn-around

Myth 3: Electric Vehicles Are Just as Bad for The Environment as Gasoline Vehicles

The Truth:
No tailpipe fossil fuels are burned, resulting in no emissions or GHGs from vehicle operation from the all-electric 2022 E-Transit. Gasoline vehicles can't say that.

The Truth:
In geographic areas that use lower polluting energy sources for electricity generation, like solar, hydro and wind, EVs typically have lower emissions well-to-wheel than similar vehicles running on gasoline or diesel. In 2021, on average in the US, an all-electric vehicle produces 3,744 lbs. of CO2 equivalent annually, while gasoline produces 11,435 lbs.6

The Truth:
As the electrical grid adds more low carbon energy resources, EVs charged on the grid will also have a lower carbon footprint. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, renewables share of the U.S. electricity generation mix will increase from 21% in 2020 to 42% in 2050, the majority of the increase coming from wind and solar generation.7

Myth 4: 2022 E-Transit Isn't as Capable as Other Ford Vehicles
The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van is more than capable of handling extreme conditions. The E-Transit has faced a battery of extreme weather testing to ensure its readiness for work. So, you can have confidence you're covered in tough weather conditions.
The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van has been put through its paces to ensure it is Built Ford Tough®. Like all Ford commercial vehicles, it's designed, engineered and assembled to withstand tough work conditions.

The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van can handle standing water just as well as the Gas Transit, with ability to drive in water up to 13 inches.8 Which is important when you got to get to where you're going.


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vanman said:
Ford shared these key facts about the E-Transit for anyone still considering getting one.

"With the latest technologies onboard, our 2022 all‑electric E‑Transit is designed to help you maximize connectivity and productivity, while enjoying a reduced cost of operation,* efficiency of operation and reduced CO2 emissions.

But there seem to be some misconceptions about electric vehicles that may be holding you back. It's important that we set the record straight."

Myth 1: 2022 E-Transit Doesn't Have a Long Enough Range

The Truth:
By leveraging more than 30 million miles of Ford Telematics™ data, we learned that the average daily range for commercial vans in the U.S. is 74 miles. Of course, we also understand there are days when those distances are higher. We consequently designed 2022 E-Transit with a targeted 126 miles of range (Cargo Van low-roof models).

The Truth:
With 2022 E-Transit you can start each day with a full charge by conveniently "fueling up" overnight at home or a place of business using the Level 2 AC (240V) Ford Connected Charging Station with streamlined consolidated billing.

Myth 2: Charging is a Slow Process

The Truth:
With 115kW fast charge capability, 2022 E-Transit can add an estimated 45 miles of range in 15 minutes3 (Cargo Van low-roof models) at DC fast chargers.

The Truth:
Finding a charger is quick with SYNC® 45, which allows drivers to search and navigate to the 63,000+ plugs available in the Blue Oval™ Charge Network.

The Truth:
E-Transit can conveniently charge overnight using the Ford Connected Charge Station or the Ford Mobile Charger plugged into a 240V outlet. See below for chart with more detailed charging information.
E-Transit Charging Times

Ford Connected Charge Station 240v/48A (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth Enabled)	Ford Mobile Charger4 240V/32A wall outlet	DC Fast Charging (115kW)
15 miles can be added per hour	10 miles can be added per hour	15-80% in approx. 34 minutes
0 - 100%: 8 hours	0 - 100%: 12 hours	-
Use: Mid-day refill or overnight charge	Use: Overnight charge	Use: Quick turn-around

Myth 3: Electric Vehicles Are Just as Bad for The Environment as Gasoline Vehicles

The Truth:
No tailpipe fossil fuels are burned, resulting in no emissions or GHGs from vehicle operation from the all-electric 2022 E-Transit. Gasoline vehicles can't say that.

The Truth:
In geographic areas that use lower polluting energy sources for electricity generation, like solar, hydro and wind, EVs typically have lower emissions well-to-wheel than similar vehicles running on gasoline or diesel. In 2021, on average in the US, an all-electric vehicle produces 3,744 lbs. of CO2 equivalent annually, while gasoline produces 11,435 lbs.6

The Truth:
As the electrical grid adds more low carbon energy resources, EVs charged on the grid will also have a lower carbon footprint. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, renewables share of the U.S. electricity generation mix will increase from 21% in 2020 to 42% in 2050, the majority of the increase coming from wind and solar generation.7

Myth 4: 2022 E-Transit Isn't as Capable as Other Ford Vehicles
The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van is more than capable of handling extreme conditions. The E-Transit has faced a battery of extreme weather testing to ensure its readiness for work. So, you can have confidence you're covered in tough weather conditions.
The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van has been put through its paces to ensure it is Built Ford Tough®. Like all Ford commercial vehicles, it's designed, engineered and assembled to withstand tough work conditions.

The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van can handle standing water just as well as the Gas Transit, with ability to drive in water up to 13 inches.8 Which is important when you got to get to where you're going.
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74 miles might be the average commute for a van but hopefully the e-transit can keep that 126 mile official range up in the winter as well as the summer. Otherwise there could be problems for people.


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The beancounter approach to range is understandable, as this van is plainly designed for the package delivery market. The rest of us get a power outlet and marketing hype.
Fact: 125 to start, then lose at least 25% after loading it up permanently with shelving, tools, and materials.
Fact: 100 miles, then park it in the northeast in january and lose at least 25% more.
Question: Where am I going with 75 miles range? Nowhere.
I'm limited to customers and job sites in a strict 30 mile radius, and no side trips to the distributors for materials.
Fact: This sucks.
And don't bother spending any more money explaining to me why I'm wrong. Just fix it.

 

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Important Facts About the New Ford E-Transit Electric Cargo Van

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vanman8 d ago

Ford shared these key facts about the E-Transit for anyone still considering getting one.

"With the latest technologies onboard, our 2022 all‑electric E‑Transit is designed to help you maximize connectivity and productivity, while enjoying a reduced cost of operation,* efficiency of operation and reduced CO2 emissions.

But there seem to be some misconceptions about electric vehicles that may be holding you back. It's important that we set the record straight."

Myth 1: 2022 E-Transit Doesn't Have a Long Enough Range

The Truth:
By leveraging more than 30 million miles of Ford Telematics™ data, we learned that the average daily range for commercial vans in the U.S. is 74 miles. Of course, we also understand there are days when those distances are higher. We consequently designed 2022 E-Transit with a targeted 126 miles of range (Cargo Van low-roof models).

The Truth:
With 2022 E-Transit you can start each day with a full charge by conveniently "fueling up" overnight at home or a place of business using the Level 2 AC (240V) Ford Connected Charging Station with streamlined consolidated billing.

Myth 2: Charging is a Slow Process
The Truth:
With 115kW fast charge capability, 2022 E-Transit can add an estimated 45 miles of range in 15 minutes3 (Cargo Van low-roof models) at DC fast chargers.
The Truth:
Finding a charger is quick with SYNC® 45, which allows drivers to search and navigate to the 63,000+ plugs available in the Blue Oval™ Charge Network.
The Truth:
E-Transit can conveniently charge overnight using the Ford Connected Charge Station or the Ford Mobile Charger plugged into a 240V outlet. See below for chart with more detailed charging information.
E-Transit Charging Times

Ford Connected Charge Station 240v/48A (Wi-Fi and Bluetooth Enabled)	Ford Mobile Charger4 240V/32A wall outlet	DC Fast Charging (115kW)
15 miles can be added per hour	10 miles can be added per hour	15-80% in approx. 34 minutes
0 - 100%: 8 hours	0 - 100%: 12 hours	-
Use: Mid-day refill or overnight charge	Use: Overnight charge	Use: Quick turn-around

Myth 3: Electric Vehicles Are Just as Bad for The Environment as Gasoline Vehicles

The Truth:
No tailpipe fossil fuels are burned, resulting in no emissions or GHGs from vehicle operation from the all-electric 2022 E-Transit. Gasoline vehicles can't say that.

The Truth:
In geographic areas that use lower polluting energy sources for electricity generation, like solar, hydro and wind, EVs typically have lower emissions well-to-wheel than similar vehicles running on gasoline or diesel. In 2021, on average in the US, an all-electric vehicle produces 3,744 lbs. of CO2 equivalent annually, while gasoline produces 11,435 lbs.6

The Truth:
As the electrical grid adds more low carbon energy resources, EVs charged on the grid will also have a lower carbon footprint. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, renewables share of the U.S. electricity generation mix will increase from 21% in 2020 to 42% in 2050, the majority of the increase coming from wind and solar generation.7

Myth 4: 2022 E-Transit Isn't as Capable as Other Ford Vehicles
The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van is more than capable of handling extreme conditions. The E-Transit has faced a battery of extreme weather testing to ensure its readiness for work. So, you can have confidence you're covered in tough weather conditions.
The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van has been put through its paces to ensure it is Built Ford Tough®. Like all Ford commercial vehicles, it's designed, engineered and assembled to withstand tough work conditions.

The Truth:
The 2022 E-Transit Van can handle standing water just as well as the Gas Transit, with ability to drive in water up to 13 inches.8 Which is important when you got to get to where you're going.


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74 miles might be the average commute for a van but hopefully the e-transit can keep that 126 mile official range up in the winter as well as the summer. Otherwise there could be problems for people.


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The beancounter approach to range is understandable, as this van is plainly designed for the package delivery market. The rest of us get a power outlet and marketing hype.
Fact: 125 to start, then lose at least 25% after loading it up permanently with shelving, tools, and materials.
Fact: 100 miles, then park it in the northeast in january and lose at least 25% more.
Question: Where am I going with 75 miles range? Nowhere.
I'm limited to customers and job sites in a strict 30 mile radius, and no side trips to the distributors for materials.
Fact: This sucks.
And don't bother spending any more money explaining to me why I'm wrong. Just fix it.

The two actual vehicles that I have heard of (from dealership staff) being delivered have had full charge ranges of 100 and 89 miles respectively (vehicle data/info after "full charge"). Cold temperatures could have been a bit of a factor, but not much. Decent temperature conditions and you've already started at 20-30% below the 126 range. WTF? Add a really cold day and a van full of tools and materials and I'm thinking people are going to be really disappointed. Possible stranded. Definitley upset. I want one so bad. I can't stand emmisions I'm spewing daily, but I just can't do it. The Lightening looks great. Cheaper intro model, 4WD, over double the range. I'd much rather have a (4WD) van. If I knew I could get 100 miles out of the E Transit on a challenging day with some weight, I'd get it. I think the low roof van might not have a 100 mile range on a perfect (temperature) day while empty. I would love to be proven wrong and will throw $50K at Ford for one if I am. Otherwise I wait until 2024(?) for a LIghtening....

 

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The two actual vehicles that I have heard of (from dealership staff) being delivered have had full charge ranges of 100 and 89 miles respectively (vehicle data/info after "full charge"). Cold temperatures could have been a bit of a factor, but not much. Decent temperature conditions and you've already started at 20-30% below the 126 range. WTF? Add a really cold day and a van full of tools and materials and I'm thinking people are going to be really disappointed. Possible stranded. Definitley upset. I want one so bad. I can't stand emmisions I'm spewing daily, but I just can't do it. The Lightening looks great. Cheaper intro model, 4WD, over double the range. I'd much rather have a (4WD) van. If I knew I could get 100 miles out of the E Transit on a challenging day with some weight, I'd get it. I think the low roof van might not have a 100 mile range on a perfect (temperature) day while empty. I would love to be proven wrong and will throw $50K at Ford for one if I am. Otherwise I wait until 2024(?) for a LIghtening....

Hey @Bub welcome to the forum! If the dealers have been driving the E-Transits as demos or something that could be a factor for those range numbers as well.

What are you looking to use the E-Transit or Lightning for?

 

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Hey @Bub welcome to the forum! If the dealers have been driving the E-Transits as demos or something that could be a factor for those range numbers as well.

What are you looking to use the E-Transit or Lightning for?

Who are you? The forum moderator? Just curious. If yes, thanks for the forum.
My information is from new owners via dealership staff conversations. And, who knows, maybe it says 100 mile range after being fully charged but the van actually delivers more range. I don't know. I would love to talk with one of these owners. If these owners are doing 50 miles a day, I'm sure they're good to go and this van is for them and a great alternative for the environment! But, I think Ford is doing a great disservice by advertising a 126 mile range and I think the effective loaded cold day range may be dismal. I hope not.
I'm looking to use the van basically as a trim carpenter. I'm a residential construction project manager who swings a hammer here and there and carts materials to job sites in the Denver metro area. If the van had the Lightening's range (and intro price tag) I'd already be in. I'd rather have a van for work but will probably wait for a Lightening. The 4WD with the Lightening is also attractive...